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Saturday, October 24, 2009

Does a email using a hotmail address provide the sender ip?

I have a header of a hotmail email, but do not know where to find the senders ip address. It is kind of like two emails, because the sender was answering my email when we were friends. This person became hostile and insulting in another chat after four years and I blocked him. I know he is in Greece, but he somehow has much information about me that I did not give him. I am trying to find info. about him, but I am sure he was not giving his real name, as I did not give him mine. He knows everything about me, even called my home number and I am in usa. I did not give him this info, but he said if one knows how to search they can find everything. I am not up todate on internet as I should be. I only saved the email from last month.
Does a email using a hotmail address provide the sender ip?
In the deail header section you will find the sender's ip at the bottom, one ip will be of Hotmail server (which is not required) and the other one should be from where he has mailed you. Check that.





Though there are places where you can get more details from an IP address. Go to www.easywhois.com and find more detail from the ip address there. Just check all his mails and their IP, whether they are coming from same place or not? If it is coming from same place then he is not surfing annonymously and you have some hope.





He may have got your phone no. and other details from several possible sources, a) your friends or someone common to both of you b) may have got details from your PC only while you were chatting. I read once that there are security concerns in some messengers.





I have also found more information on how email works and how to troubleshoot email related problems at http://tinyurl.com/nnv9f, it works.
Reply:I would say that I would concur but you could spoof the IP address and provide a fake one.. Report Abuse

Reply:Hotmail address will not have the sender's IP address but the email servers that are being utilized to send the email.





For example, when I send my email from my hotmail account to my personal, I get a relay response like this (check details of the email or more options):





Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.169.26]) by bay0-omc2-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830);


Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:48:19 -0700


Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;


Mon, 21 Aug 2006 06:48:19 -0700


Message-ID: %26lt;BAY114-F1623A029C5338E01525601D3410@phx...


Received: from 65.54.169.200 by by114fd.bay114.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;


Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:48:17 GMT





As you could see, it is not the Sender IP but the email server





There are several things you could do to verify some information (but not a gurantee). Microsoft (MSN and Hotmail services) have multiple smtp servers and it is possible (unless they just have one primary portal) and see where it is coming from.





*** Note: This is not a guarantee and usually, forensic computer investigator could then get a warrany to see the remaining information from Microsoft's end ***





Look for the IP Address of the email server:


Global: 65.54.169.26


Specific Relay: 65.54.169.200





These are features out there but could be blocked by your ISP or Hotmail (for security). But You could try to trace the location of the email server (usually, email relay is at least one per country) or whois to see where the IP allotment is registered (and usually located)





You could do a tracert (inside command prompt : Start --%26gt; Run then cmd and press Enter)





Checking on my end, Microsoft will not let you look through them.


C:\Documents and Settings%26gt;tracert 65.54.169.26





Tracing route to bay114-f16.bay114.hotmail.com [65.54.169.26]


over a maximum of 30 hops:





1 * * * Request timed out.


2 12 ms 15 ms 19 ms 68-71-140-6-st.bflony.adelphia.net [68.71.140.6]





3 15 ms 16 ms 13 ms 68.65.14.141


4 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms 68-71-140-53-st.bflony.adelphia.net [68.71.140.5


3]


5 14 ms 13 ms 12 ms 68.168.225.1


6 76 ms 15 ms 19 ms a1-02-00-00.a0.buf00.adelphiacom.net [66.109.14.


61]


7 12 ms 22 ms 16 ms a1-01-00-00.c0.buf00.adelphiacom.net [66.109.1.3


7]


8 27 ms 53 ms 26 ms p3-00-01-00.c0.chi75.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.2


17]


9 41 ms 37 ms 45 ms so-00-01-00.c1.dca91.adelphiacom.net [66.109.0.8


2]


10 45 ms 47 ms 48 ms p3-05-00-00.p0.dca90.adelphiacom.net [66.109.1.1


42]


11 * * * Request timed out.


12 gig1-3.was-76e-1a.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.44.5] reports: Destination net unre


achable.





Trace complete





Another tool is UNIX comman WHOIS:


This will normally tell where the IP Address is registered (and sometimes located)





Went to www.dslreports.com/whois


fwhois 65.54.169.200@whois.arin.net


[whois.arin.net]





OrgName: Microsoft Corp


OrgID: MSFT


Address: One Microsoft Way


City: Redmond


StateProv: WA


PostalCode: 98052


Country: US





NetRange: 65.52.0.0 - 65.55.255.255


CIDR: 65.52.0.0/14


NetName: MICROSOFT-1BLK


NetHandle: NET-65-52-0-0-1


Parent: NET-65-0-0-0-0


NetType: Direct Assignment


NameServer: NS1.MSFT.NET


NameServer: NS5.MSFT.NET


NameServer: NS2.MSFT.NET


NameServer: NS3.MSFT.NET


NameServer: NS4.MSFT.NET


Comment:


RegDate: 2001-02-14


Updated: 2004-12-09





RTechHandle: ZM23-ARIN


RTechName: Microsoft Corporation


RTechPhone: +1-425-882-8080


RTechEmail: noc@microsoft.com





OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE231-ARIN


OrgAbuseName: Abuse


OrgAbusePhone: +1-425-882-8080


OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@microsoft.com





OrgAbuseHandle: HOTMA-ARIN


OrgAbuseName: Hotmail Abuse


OrgAbusePhone: +1-425-882-8080


OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@hotmail.com





OrgAbuseHandle: MSNAB-ARIN


OrgAbuseName: MSN ABUSE


OrgAbusePhone: +1-425-882-8080


OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@msn.com





OrgNOCHandle: ZM23-ARIN


OrgNOCName: Microsoft Corporation


OrgNOCPhone: +1-425-882-8080


OrgNOCEmail: noc@microsoft.com





OrgTechHandle: MSFTP-ARIN


OrgTechName: MSFT-POC


OrgTechPhone: +1-425-882-8080


OrgTechEmail: iprrms@microsoft.com





The downfall is the IP address is registered in Washington and would not give much information about the relay.





Lastly, is to see if you could IP locate:


http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?Ge...





Attempted and could not get a result.. (Microsoft covers their network nodes and internet routers).





From this point, we could obtain information from Microsoft by requesting it for investigation or website that you chat to obtain information. But the information is on their end and that is what happens when you have services (3rd party for that services)





But since he is calling you, can't you get the Phone ID of caller through the telephone company?
Reply:I would contact the phone company and see if you can get his number blocked somehow. I would suggest that you change your identity on the net. Get a new screenname and email from a different source. Ip addresses change unless you have a static ip, so I doubt that hotmail attaches it, but there are a lot of ways hackers can get information and I'm not an expert. I would also change my im/surfing habits to try and avoid this person
Reply:Ok if you can find an option that says: Display all headers you may get an IP address, but it's probably not his. YOU have gotten yourself an Internet Stalker, and honey he may not be in Greece, he may be sitting outside of your house! You need to be very careful when corresponding to anyone, you should not exchange e-mails, I like to use programs that have an internal mail like the Court TV site, the mail is sent from one member to another without disclosing personal details (unless you tell them these things). You need to be running a firewall or (Gosh this is going to make me sound stupid, and in this field I really am)...a Proxy Shield, this type of program, will disguise you IP everytime you get online. I know you are going to get better answers than mine, and I WANT you to vote for someone who has REAL technical know how that gives you a solution to your problems in the future, as for this person....if he turned hostile via the internet then he may be zooey enough to turn hostile or try something with you in REAL LIFE. Are you young? Don't answer me here...but let your parents KNOW about the way this person has spoken to you and tell them that he knows where you are, who you are and that you think he may be a problem! You can't ever be too careful! Please consider that this person has tracked you down like he was hunting an animal! I have some pen pals but I also run a firewall on both my computer at home and the one at work, I do not know these people, and I do not tell them personal things that would make me easier to find...I tell everyone I live in Arizona, and I hate it...but I don't tell them my age, or the exact truth about WHERE in Arizona I live, the Internet Company that I use covers the Southwestern US, and I have seen what was supposed to be my "IP" on a blog tracking site, it says I am in New Mexico, so you just have to be careful get somebody to add a firewall to your computer, Zone Alarm is good, there are others...I know there is other techinical stuff that can help you, but at the same time, this other person is/has stalked you. Make whoever you live with or near aware of this and since you don't really know him, be careful because like I said he may not be in Greece at all! Have someone who is computer savvy try to track him (it's not likely that you will find him)...but then again, there's always a new hack or a way in the back door on many programs...You are going to need to run your computer with more "STUFF" running while you are on the Internet, but it will keep this from happening again.





Stay safe! Get close with a Geek that you know and like and keep the hotmail chances are you will not get anything useful from it, but then again who knows? If nothing else, change your ISP, and if you live alone get a big vicious dog! Good luck!
Reply:if use a e-mail provider like yahoo,hotmail,gmail or any other then the origin ip will be the server of the provider and not his/her personal IP this will only be the case if they have their own e-mail server running on the pc from which they r sending the mail... sorry, of course he could have found that information by using google and ur name or nick, try googlin urself and c if u find any info, another often used approach is to use a fake instant messenger account and just chat with u, pretending to be some1 else, get the needed info and then go on... and if he got ur real name, which u might use in ur instant messenger or in ur e-mail address, then it is not difficult to find out ur phone number using online resources...
Reply:let him call you it costs him money too
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